

The headline of the excerpt in The Atlantic is “The Most Pathetic Men in America.” And yet some of them still seem happy to talk to you. Vanity Fair: So you have this book more or less portraying all these Republicans as cynical, spineless sycophants. Leibovich unpacks that sense of dread in the lightly edited and condensed Q&A below, along with his thoughts on the January 6 commission, the midterms, the far right, Joe Biden, Donald Trump, Ron DeSantis, and 2024. There’s an unmistakable darkness running through Thank You for Your Servitude, considering how high the stakes have risen-not just for the two major political parties but for American democracy as a whole-since the comparatively quaint Obama years.


Politicians, even at their most repellant, can be an underutilized source of humor.” The book, out Tuesday from Penguin Press, is the author’s long-awaited sequel to 2013’s best-selling This Town, a rollicking dissection of Washington’s power elite and a masterpiece in the juicy Beltway tell-all genre. “I have no idea what the formula is, but books have to be fun in their own way, even when they’re, you know, sharing egregious truths. “What’s been encouraging about the book is the people who have read it so far have said it’s really powerful, and also that it made them laugh on every page, which is a really tough balance,” said Leibovich, who’s four months into his new job at The Atlantic after a decade and a half at The New York Times. I wrapped up my interview with Mark Leibovich with the requisite kicker asking if there was anything else he wanted to add about Thank You for Your Servitude, Leibovich’s new page-turner charting the “moral rout” of the modern Republican Party.
